On 9 June 2015 at 05:29, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > On 6/8/2015 1:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > Hmm.... Let us be precise. That the computation take place in arithmetic > is a mathematical fact that nobody doubt today. UDA explains only that we > cannot use a notion of primitive matter for making "more real" some > computations in place of others. It makes the physics supervening on "all > computations in arithmetic". > > But my computer does some computations and not others. So there must be > some sense in which some computations are real and others aren't. > Handwaving that they're all there in arithmetic proves too much. >
I don't see that. Surely the problem is that it doesn't prove *enough* - assuming all computations exist (in some sense) in arithmetic, which I believe is "trivially" true to most mathematicians, how does this produce physics? If you're going to use a comp style explanation, your computer isn't defining which computations are real, it's somehow being generated by all those abstract computations. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

