On 12 Aug 2015, at 01:42, meekerdb wrote:
If you think you have a sure fire way to identify an idiot...it's you.
It might be easy, for some class of beings. Perhaps, for the human, a
simple criteria is simply being adult, and for a computer, being not
yet programmed.
Idiocy reveals itself by, not the mistake, but by the more or less
systematic repetition of them, and the inability to change its mind,
despite evidences. Denying evidence is also a common symptom.
Then, obviously with the theory I gave, asserting one own
intelligence, or one own idiocy is a (local) symptom. Asserting one
own Intelligence/Idiocy can be replaced with asserting someone else
intelligence/idiocy. Saying that Einstein is intelligent is either a
cliché or a way to assert one's own intelligence.
In fact idolatry, and uncritical attitude with respect to the boss, or
anyone, even a God, is also a symptom of idiocy/cowardliness.
But there is no criteria for intelligence, except that with the
definition taken, keeping silence is a sort of local quasi-criteria
(making pebble intelligent, but why not as they rarely utters
stupidities).
Bruno
Brent
On 8/11/2015 4:06 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
On 11 Aug 2015, at 10:26 pm, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
wrote:
No doubt that it would be interesting to look at. Salvia has been
called a cure of ... atheism (the non agnostic one 'course). Not
that it makes you believe in anything new, it just shows reasons
to doubt more, and to recognize we are more ignorant that we would
have been able to conceive before.
Bruno
Well, that’s it, surely. The Idiot Test administered in this way
has as a basic assumption that only what might be called The True
Public Idiot is by nature incapable of changing or modifying his
stated beliefs. A hallmark of idiocy is absolute certainty. In this
light, Richard Dawkins for example, qualifies pretty much as a TPI.
The other thing about this possible theological definition of
‘idiocy’ is: you will never meet an idiot who thinks the test was
run fairly. This person has to accept that there is now an
institution-backed sanction against them due to someone ticking a
box marked ‘idiot’ next to their name. Still, they can justify
themselves by saying how ‘in the past’ they changed their mind over
certain matters when people whose opinions they could respect
convinced them otherwise. You might like to check this assertion by
interviewing his mother or sister instead.
You will never, therefore, catch a certified public idiot in the
act of changing his beliefs. This is because he has never changed
his beliefs in the past and will never in the future - not because
you are unlucky in the matter of catching him at it. The ticking of
the box marked ‘idiot’ is a truly serious business. True (ie
incorrigible) Public Idiots are actually quite rare. Even David
Icke had to kind of admit that he probably wasn’t the reincarnation
of JC…proving therefore that he was capable of recognising the lie
he was telling himself.
This leads to further refinements of the concept:
1. An idiot is one who lies about core matters - but only to
himself. Others long since realised he enjoys playing this game
with himself and that any other setup would entail him in ceasing
to enjoy the game.
2. ??
Please feel free to add your own refinement.
Kim
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