I am curious.... you seem to speak of "idiots" exclusively in terms of "them" 
of some "other" group of individuals. Do you consider yourself to be 
potentially an "idiot" or have you managed to achieve existential certainty 
that idiocy is something that only ever applies to other people? If you have 
achieved this certainty -- e.g. that in no possible way could you ever be an 
idiot; that is an amazing feat.... or could it be incontrovertible proof of 
your own idiocy?
Any definition of idiocy that does't -- at least potentially -- include the 
"self" within the scope of its embrace is idotic - -IMO!
P.S. -- I am suspecting that if you respond at all, you'll probably roast me 
with scorn, for having had the temerity to suggest that idiocy is something we 
are all capable of achieving; and that no one is immune from idiotic mind modes.
-chris

> On 14 Aug 2015, at 8:21 am, chris peck <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> So, to cut to the chase, when a thread appears claiming the benefit of a 
> psychedelic is to work out who the idiots are, when it is suggested that the 
> substance be used in such a miserly way, I can't help but feel the people 
> suggesting that are the ones who have missed the message....

I think Strassman was right. You need a certain substance in your system to be 
even able to conceive of thinking without some limiting effect of consensus. 
The human mind has a 'native' behaviour and we might refer to this as 'baseline 
consciousness'. It is merely a starting point in the enterprise of exploring 
the terrain of consciousness. 

The Idiot Test is a cynical exercise, you seemed to have missed that. It's a 
cartoon in words designed to focus on something sinister; either a lie or a 
form of stupidity. A thought bubble as we say nowadays. Just one grade better 
than a silly poster on Facebook. The term 'idiot' is a pejorative, so we do 
need another word to cover the concept "the lack of imagination to envisage 
alternatives to the one currently held under any scenario" which to my mind at 
least, does sound rather mentally deficient. 

But I learnt a lot from Bruno's breakdown of it. Idiocy and Intelligence are 
not polar opposites. They walk hand in hand. 

Anyway - at a certain point in the presumably not too distant future, somebody 
WILL decide who all the idiots are - using whatever rationale - and they will 
all be eliminated. Probably by an AI who worked it out all by itself.

So 

2. Idiots usually end up designing technology that eventually destroys them and 
everyone else.

So, it may be that such people also receive a Darwin Award for performing the 
inestimable service to the human race of removing their DNA from the gene pool.



K

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