I do not intend to get involved in a discussion with Gődel about his phikosophy, I appreciate his talent and knowldge, just a remark on the #1 of his list: "Nature is reasonable"
In my *agnostic *views I would not go for that: we have a mental image about 'Nature' based on the little we THINK we know about Her based on the portion we (think we) observed and formulated a "human" reason upon it. According to such formulation the imagined 'Nature" (part) does fit into such *human reason*, what I would not translate into *"Nature I S reasonable"*. John Mikes On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 9/13/2015 9:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 12 Sep 2015, at 23:48, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Bruno Marchal < <[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On 11 Sep 2015, at 04:08, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> So aliens or beings on other worlds, or in other universes, need not be >> made of the same particles, or same elements/chemicals as we, if it is the >> functions/patterns/mathematical relations that determine consciousness. >> >> >> Interesting but I am not sure if that was what Gödel thought about. >> >> (But I confess I have not yet read the entire work of Gödel, I still miss >> probably some of the unpublished writings) >> >> > > I am not certain either. It was conjecture on my part. Another possible > interpretation: God-like intelligences may converge on the same set of > beliefs/actions/personalities, etc. as with increasing intelligence becomes > decreased probability of making mistakes. Therefore matters of > disagreement between any two entities converges toward zero as intelligence > increases. > > > Then it looks like humans are less intelligent than animals. Should not > the possibility of doing mistake grows with intelligence? Is not > intelligence an opening to the change of mind? That is also the experience > of having been mistaken or deluded or failed and of possibly still being > mistaken and probably being mistaken in the (hopefully consistent and > sound) extensions. > > > So the omniscient Gods of monotheism are even less intelligent. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
