On 2/10/2015 11:21 pm, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 2 Oct 2015, at 12:39 AM, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Could you provide your answers to questions 1 - 7?
No need because those questions all involve the physical transfer of information, which is not relevant to purported chance "copies" outside the light cone. A chance copy anywhere has nothing to do with me since, to be "me", it would have to be an accurate copy of all my environment -- probably including all the observable universe. "I" am not just my brain -- I am a brain-in-a-body-in-a world-in-a-universe. All components are necessary for personal identity.

When did you come up with the idea that an adequate copy of you must include a copy of the entire observable universe?
I have always thought this. I am a physicist with a lifelong interest in astronomy. In particular, the structure of the CMB is a topic of particular interest. So for any copy in another universe to be "me" in all detail, that copy must be able to observe exactly the same structure in the CMB. Now the CMB is the echo of the big bang and is the furthest object that we can now observe: it defines our "particle horizon", beyond which no data or interaction is possible. In order to get this right, the whole universe would have to be the same in every detail.

I think you are continuing to confuse the issues between local copies, obeying the laws of physics and information transfer, and remote copies outside our particle horizon. The latter are of absolutely no relevance to me here-and-now because there is no possibility of information transfer.

Suppose you're told that according whatever criteria you have defined you were *inadequately* copied last night in your sleep. You believe you're Bruce Kellett, have his memories, look like him, and everyone who knew Bruce agrees that he seems to be the same guy. However, the atoms just weren't put in place using the right procedure, whatever that might be. What difference does the knowledge of this deficit make to you? What difference does it make to anyone else?

How does such an implausible scenario differ from the observation that I sloughed off some flakes of skin during the night, some cells died, and some new cells grew, nourished by the food I ate for dinner last night? Minor changes do not disrupt bodily continuity, and all these changes are subject to the laws of physics, so are completely traceable and understandable.

Whatever arbitrary scenario you come up with, you cannot find anything that puts any serious dent in the closest continuer theory of personal identity, and your idea of "psychological continuity" is easily shown to be a nonsense for copies outside our light cone.

Bruce

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