On 04 Nov 2015, at 19:41, John Clark wrote:

On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:45 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

​​>> ​We know from ​Gleason's theorem​ that in 3 spatial dimensions only the square of Schrodinger's wave (the Born rule), and not the cube or anything else, can yield a probability without inconsistencies; so the real question isn't why is the Born rule a square but why is it a probability at all. ​

​> ​But that is the part which is explained by the "Many-Worlds Interpretation" of QM. That is what Everett has done

​OK, I can't find a lot to disagree with you there. Many-Worlds gives the best explanation for why probabilities and not certainties exist at the quantum level that I know of, and that and the fact that it doesn't need to define "consciousness" or "observation" is why I like it.

Everett still does need to explain observation, but it does not need a magical theory: the brave old Descartes mechanism works well, except that mechanism makes obligatory to justifies the wave itself from all computations (or it remains resting on a magical use of some primary matter).


​> ​So it appears that you are coherent now. If you reject the FPI in computationalism, you need to reject it in Everett, but​ [...]

​But I don't reject "FPI" in ANYTHING! I've known since I was 2 that sometimes a person doesn't know what is going to happen next.

By a non intrinsic ignorance. But with self-duplication and/or self- superposition, the ignorance is intrinsic. Even an omniscient God cannot predict the result of self-measurement in those cases.

Bruno




 John K Clark



​
​










then I am no more sure why you defend the MW.


Bruno




 John K Clark  ​


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to everything- [email protected].
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/




--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected].
To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.


--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected].
To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/



--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Everything List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to [email protected].
To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Reply via email to