Indeed, John, The Clintons do rather well in obscuring things, unlike Milhous Nixon (Richard). Plus, the media is bought and paid for, psychologically, if not financially, and the two seem to go hand in hand. That the voters get screwed, is not a brand new thing, as we all know, but neither are we all supine victims, punished by a cruel, overlord. To misquote Ben Franklin, once more, we "Have a Plutocracy, Madame, if we can keep it." On the other hand, as Graham Green's character, in The Third Man, Harry Lime stated, You know what the fellow said – in Italy, for thirty years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love, they had five hundred years of democracy and peace – and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock.
Surely, under this plutocracy we have had cell phones and tweeting, so maybe it's a trade off. Interestingly enough, here is an article from The Hill suggesting the Rulers are making up their minds. http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/261227-gop-donors-wrestle-with-possibility-of-trump-nomination -----Original Message----- From: John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sun, Nov 29, 2015 2:56 pm Subject: Re: Debate questions. Mitch, I can afford to be an optimist at 93. It is not the question about those who "vote" - but about those who 'finance' it. The voters get zilch. (And then come the interjected Elector-assembly to 'review' the voting - deciding yes, or no. I consider (don't tell anybody) the 1st C.W. the SHAME of the US history, I wonder what will be the 2nd one? Rome did not survive a 3rd one. Do not think you can 'find' the moneys I wrote about: Bill is too smart - yes, smart - majing sure to hide it under titles not detectable by IRS or ilk. We have a hint how and against whom Moma will rise - from the time when she was NY-Senator: to succumb to the lies of the gov't. On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 4:40 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: My, you are an optimist, Mr. Mikes. Bill is quite a character and Moma will likely win, not out of brilliance, however, but, because of the promise of free things, to those who believe that they will get their share, if only they vote for Moma. By the time Moma goes up against whomever, the decision will be done. Welcome to the US, a Plutocracy, if you can keep it? Because of this, smartness will not count, and for the same reason, we are likely heading for a 2nd US civil war, because there is no opportunity for compromise. -----Original Message----- From: John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sat, Nov 28, 2015 3:24 pm Subject: Re: Debate questions. Mitch, don't be naive: you will not find moneys assigned to HRC for prez. Bill is smarter than that. Even smarter than you. Besides: the questions will emerge when the 2-party debate comes up. On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 9:28 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: One could ask the Dems directly - Ms Clinton-What do accept money for the Clinton Foundation from the Saudi's $$$$? Ms. Clinton - How much money do you accept from George Soros Foundation $$$$? Ms. Clinton- George Soros, the funder of environmentalist causes just bought a chunk of Peabody Coal, why? Ms. Clinton -Do you, as of right now, do you know of a storage technology that can store Terawatts of Solar? Clinton-Benghazi, Clinton-Syria, Clinton-Economy, Clinton-Spying... I could also apply this to the Bushes, but since you gace drawn the line....unguarde! Ok, Brent, I will leave you be, because for you, Texas must be a sort of purgatory for you, yes? So yes, you are permitted to be sarcastic, via Slate. On the other hand, I am feeling that the US will soon be a failed state, as CIA used to term this.This, because there is no reasonable resolution between us. I am seriously, not, a social, or even an economic conservative. I am, for what it's worth, a nationalist and your party and your team (Dems) are Not. Your lot is anti-nationalist, worldwide, with progressivism having a strong leaning towards Stalinist practices...eventually. On immigration, if they (Democrats-Progressives) start eroding the base of whites, older blacks, and Latinos who have been here long-term, The Bamers, and the Merkels, and the EU, want to Import replacement Voters, in exchange for goodies from the State. Thus, to ensure the Progressive Choke Hold on power, numerically. So its a play on your ideologies part, and a failure on my ideologies part (I am genuinely a pragmatist but want ourt nation-state to survive for a good while). I feel (not think) that the US is due for a civil war, and what happens afterwards, is anyone's guess. Maybe a US continent looking something like the HBO series, The Man in the High Castle (book written in 62) will result? Perhaps, the best we can all hope for would be territorially, a velvet divorce, like between the Czech and Slovak Republic. You'd move out of Texas, and I'd move out of Ohio. A traumatic vision in either case, and one I do not look forward to. Apologies, for this rant, but I felt that your Slate article needed a reposite. I used 'effects' on this email to assist in your reading of this epistle, so as to speed it all up, and lessen your likely, disgust at my words. Regards, none the less, Mitch -----Original Message----- From: Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> To: EveryThing <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Fri, Nov 27, 2015 10:16 pm Subject: Debate questions. Questions you wish they'd really asked at the Republican debate: http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/11/16/hardball-questions-for-the-next-debate/ Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. 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