On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:37 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

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>> The problem isn't that Bruno's mathematics is too sophisticated, it's
>> that his logic is too silly and the fact that the very thing you're thing
>> you're trying to prove can't be uses as an assumption in a proof.
>
>
> > Where did I do that?


​Every time ​
Bruno Marchal
​ uses a personal pronoun in the definition of a
personal pronoun
​ and then uses wall to wall ​
personal pronoun
​s to try to prove things about ​
personal pronoun
​s.

  John K Clark









> On 08 Feb 2016, at 22:29, John Clark wrote:
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> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016  spudboy100 via Everything List <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> ​> ​
>> I don't mind a bit about the ancestor worship thing.
>
>
> I
> ​mind​
> , during the middle ages and well into the renaissance Greek ancestor
> worship was a hindrance to progress.
> ​ ​
> Whenever somebody came up with a new original idea the response was always
> the same
> ​:​
> that can't be right because it contradicts what the ancient Greeks
> thought.
>
> Today a bright 4th grader could multiply two 5 digit
> ​​
> numbers together in about
> ​1​
> 0 minutes
> ​,​
> but it would have taken the smartest ancient Greek a lifetime to do so
> (and even then would have probably made a mistake and gotten the wrong
> answer)
> ​,​
> and that same Greek would get a F on a 4th grade science test. The idea
> that
> ​
> somebody
> ​like that ​
> could help those in the 21th century working on cutting edge problems in
> physics and mathematics is ridiculous.
>
>
>> ​> ​
>> I admit now to having real difficulty following Bruno's mathematical
>> theology,
>
>
> ​You're not alone, I don't think anybody on this list understands Bruno's
> ideas, and that includes Bruno.​
>
>
> You are the only one stopping at step 3, and as most people have seen, you
> don't have an argument. You just confuse 1p and 3p where it arrange your
> ideology. That does not work.
>
> Then for the translation in arithmetic, I see that many people have just
> not the math background. But then people like Penrose have shown that even
> great physicists does not understand really Gödel's incompleteness theorem,
> so it is normal. Since then, I have realized that only professional
> logicians get it right, and they have no problem with it. I am endorsed for
> my logic by notorious logician.
>
> You do just propaganda, without arguing.
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>> ​> ​
>> which is not his fault, but instead my inability to comprehend his math.
>
>
> ​The problem isn't that Bruno's mathematics is too sophisticated, it's
> that his logic is too silly and the fact that the very thing you're thing
> you're trying to prove can't be uses as an assumption in a proof.
>
>
>
> Where did I do that? I think you say this just for being negative, to
> defend your materialist ideology, or your ego, or something.
>
> I would prefer we discuss ideas instead of people, so let us stop those
> hominem thing.
>
> I asked for your post if someone else could explain your point, and nobody
> tried. Nobody get your point John, and what has been made clear has been
> debunked more than one time.
>
> If you think you have a point make it clear, without any ad hominem
> remarks, or rhetorical tricks.
>
> Bruno
>
>
>
>
>   John K Clark   ​
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