On 09 Feb 2016, at 19:27, John Clark wrote:
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:37 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
wrote:
>> The problem isn't that Bruno's mathematics is too
sophisticated, it's that his logic is too silly and the fact that
the very thing you're thing you're trying to prove can't be uses as
an assumption in a proof.
> Where did I do that?
Every time Bruno Marchal uses a personal pronoun in the
definition of a personal pronoun and then uses wall to wall
personal pronouns to try to prove things about personal
pronouns.
very fuzzy summing up of an argument you made more precise once, and
has been debunked by many then, without any reply of yours.
bruno
John K Clark
On 08 Feb 2016, at 22:29, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]
> wrote:
> I don't mind a bit about the ancestor worship thing.
I mind, during the middle ages and well into the renaissance
Greek ancestor worship was a hindrance to progress. Whenever
somebody came up with a new original idea the response was always
the same: that can't be right because it contradicts what the
ancient Greeks thought.
Today a bright 4th grader could multiply two 5 digit numbers
together in about 10 minutes, but it would have taken
the smartest ancient Greek a lifetime to do so (and even then would
have probably made a mistake and gotten the wrong answer), and
that same Greek would get a F on a 4th grade science test. The idea
that somebody like that could help those in the 21th
century working on cutting edge problems in physics and mathematics
is ridiculous.
> I admit now to having real difficulty following Bruno's
mathematical theology,
You're not alone, I don't think anybody on this list understands
Bruno's ideas, and that includes Bruno.
You are the only one stopping at step 3, and as most people have
seen, you don't have an argument. You just confuse 1p and 3p where
it arrange your ideology. That does not work.
Then for the translation in arithmetic, I see that many people have
just not the math background. But then people like Penrose have
shown that even great physicists does not understand really Gödel's
incompleteness theorem, so it is normal. Since then, I have realized
that only professional logicians get it right, and they have no
problem with it. I am endorsed for my logic by notorious logician.
You do just propaganda, without arguing.
> which is not his fault, but instead my inability to
comprehend his math.
The problem isn't that Bruno's mathematics is too sophisticated,
it's that his logic is too silly and the fact that the very thing
you're thing you're trying to prove can't be uses as an assumption
in a proof.
Where did I do that? I think you say this just for being negative,
to defend your materialist ideology, or your ego, or something.
I would prefer we discuss ideas instead of people, so let us stop
those hominem thing.
I asked for your post if someone else could explain your point, and
nobody tried. Nobody get your point John, and what has been made
clear has been debunked more than one time.
If you think you have a point make it clear, without any ad hominem
remarks, or rhetorical tricks.
Bruno
John K Clark
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