On 08 May 2016, at 23:48, Samiya Illias wrote:
On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 9:03 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 23 Apr 2016, at 05:30, Samiya Illias wrote:
This email list has been pondering, discussing and debating machine
theology, the mind-body problem, 1P, 3P, and so on. You understand
the relationship between the software and the hardware. Who then
can better appreciate the scriptures when they speak of the WORD
preceding everything, that is, the CODE which generated the entire
creation and everyone and everything in it?! Who then can better
understand that it is the COMMAND which effects changes in the
PROGRAM, and the COMMAND is generated by the PROGRAMMER (God)?! Who
then knows that even what appears RANDOM is generated by CODE?! Who
then can better relate to the concepts of NAFS (1P) and OBSERVERS &
WITNESSES (3P)?! Who then can better realise that if a CODE was
originally conceived and has been WRITTEN, then repeating the CODE
to RECREATE it is far easier?!
That is cool, Samya.
And, especially, who then can better understand that tampering with
the PERFECT CODE only corrupts it?!
If the PERFECT CODE can be corrupted, it means that it is not the
perfect code.
I don't think you can corrupt the perfect code, as I don't believe
there is bugs in elementary arithmetic (not confuse again with
possible human or machine theories about it).
If you agree that "2+2=4" cannot be corrupted then the entire
universal dovetailing cannot be corrupted. It emulates all programs
with all possible bugs, but none on this will change the elementary
facts on which it proceeds. Plausibly, most phenomenologies (NAFS)
inherit a part of its stability, and correctness, and perhaps even
an atom of its perfection, who nows?
You can't corrupt the Big One. You can trust HIM/SHE/IT on this. I
think.
My God (Allah) is the One who wrote/spoke all the codes of creation,
including the big one(s). I trust Allah does not allow anyone,
including the big one(s), to corrupt creation. In fact, they all
humbly submit to the Will of Allah and live their purpose in the
grand scheme of creation. Those created beings who misuse their free
will to try to corrupt were never taken nor will ever be taken as
part of the executive of the grand creation (Quran 18:51). Respite
is given for a certain amount of time. When that period expires, all
will be judged, and in perfect justice the corrupt will be contained
for ever.
As I understand the scripture and its message, Allah bestowed some
advanced intelligence to humans to entrust us with some big
responsibilities (Quran 33:72). However, we need to prove that we
are worthy of undertaking those responsibilities (Quran 33:73), and
therefore He created death and life to test us (Quran 67:2, 29:2).
Thus, He created this contained environment, practical exam room,
(Quran 76:2) where we have been granted a certain degree of freedom
along with guidance, an open book exam (Quran 76:3).
Adam was initially examined in the Garden, and in his pursuit of
Immortality and a Kingdom that Never Decays (Quran 20:120), Adam's
tampering with his DNA resulted in the loss of the natural clothing
of humans. On Earth, humans are among the rare creatures whose skins
are bare and not covered with fur, feather, shell or some other form
of covering to hide their body. Scientists have discovered
pseudogenes (mutated, inactive genes) in humans, which indicate that
perhaps sometime in the distant past, human skin was covered in fur
or feather.
Adam and his progeny (us) have been sent to this Earth to be
examined. People before us were examined, and so are we also here to
take our exam (Quran 29:3). Mighty civilisations have preceded us,
who were given knowledge of or from Everything, yet when they
arrogantly refused to submit to the guidance and will of God, they
were warned of impending punishment, and eventually destroyed for
their corruptions.
And Allah knows best!
According to your interpretation of the Quran, and actually, mine, too
(for the last sentence). Where we differ is that I interpret the Quran
as identfying Allah and the Big One, which automatically prevents me
(us, the believers) to attribute any saying to Him/It/Her, unless
allegorically or metaphorically.
All verses in the Quran can only be invoked personally. They mention
Allah, and so using them in practice or terrestrial matter would
become an authoritative argument (as it does with some sunni
literalist reading as we can see in some part of the Muslim world).
Only Allah can judge, no humans can refer to Allah or the Quran, nor
the Bible, to judge another one. Now, my point was just that many
Muslims throughout the age agreed with this point, and I found
interesting that there is still today a branch of Islam (Bektashi)
which interpret the Quran in that way. It is "mechanist"-compatible.
Only such interpretation of the Quran has a future when we will expand
in the galaxy, as such expansion will be done only through the
mechanist theotechnologies.
Bruno
Samiya
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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