On 10 May 2016 at 02:50, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On 5/9/2016 12:52 AM, 'scerir' via Everything List wrote:
>
> Saibal Mitra:
>
>
> And this is the core of the disagreement, you say that the results are
> already there, but in the MWI this is false. In the MWI the cat is not
> either dead or alive before you open the box, the superposition has
> become entangled with the environment, but both branches are relevant
> until you get to know the result.
>
> It seems (to me) interesting this quote from Nicolas Gisin "Against Many-
> Worlds",
> ch. 4 of the paper ' Are There Quantum Effects Coming from Outside Space-time?
> Nonlocality, free will and "no many-worlds" '
> http://arxiv.org/pdf/1011.3440.pdf
>
> "On the contrary, I do not see any explanatory power in the many worlds: it
> seems
> to be made just to prevent one from asking (possibly provocative) questions.
> Moreover, it has built in it the impossibility of any test: all its
> predictions are identical
> to those of quantum theory. For me, it looks like "cushion for laziness"
> (un coussin de paresse in French).
>
>
> It avoids the otherwise puzzling question of, "When does the wave function
> collapse?  Why is a measurement different from other physical
> interactions?"  QBism provides one answer, but at the cost of losing a kind
> of absolute objectivity.  Other solutions, like Bohm and GRW, postulate
> truly different physics that produce collapse.
>
> And there is a second, decisive, reason to
> reject
> the many-worlds view: it leaves no space for free will."
>
>
> That's a silly reason.  Daniel Dennett, in his book *Elbow Room*,
> explains that even Laplacian determinism leaves us all the free will worth
> having.
>

Moreover, even if MWI did somehow destroy free will, causing some people
consternation as a result, that would have no bearing on its truth.



-- 
Stathis Papaioannou

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