On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:29 AM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Bruno has shown that arithmetic is a viable candidate for explaining >> physics: >> > > > Bruno wasn't > > the first to discover that, > > people have > > known for > > 400 years > > that mathematics is the best language for describing physics, > You misread my point, everyone knows mathematics can *describe* physics, what I said was Bruno shows how mathematics can *explain* physics. Meaning, why the physical laws have the form they have, and why, assuming only a mathematical theory, all physical observations can be explained from that assumption alone. You might know this if you read past step 3, instead of spending 5 years stuck there. Jason > but the point is mathematics is a *language* > * * > and > > physics isn't, physics just *is*. And even if it turns out that I'm wrong > and that in some sense mathematics is more fundamental > > than physics it wouldn't change the status of what this list is unhealthily > (in my > humble > opinion) obsessed with, consciousness. Whatever consciousness is one thing > is very clear, it can't be produced entirely from the > stuff at the > fundamental level of reality, and being more fundamental is not the same > as being more important. Atoms are more fundamental than molecules but > molecules have properties than atoms don't have, and molecules are more > fundamental than life but life has properties that molecules don't have; in > the same way consciousness needs intelligent behavior and intelligent > behavior needs computation and computation need > s > physics. > > > John K Clark > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
