On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 27 Dec 2016, at 12:03, Telmo Menezes wrote:
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>> I take a break from the god-wars to propose an idea that I have been
>> thinking about. This is probably both silly and unoriginal, but here
>> it goes...
>>
>> If we assume the MWI, isn't it the case that we should expect the
>> world to become weirder as we get older? My reasoning is simple: the
>> older you are, the lower your measure, the more specific events have
>> to "conspire" to keep you alive. As this specificity accumulates, it
>> increasingly bias the possible worlds.
>>
>> One could even use a chart like the one below to predict where "the
>> weirdening" would accelerate. Of course this is not something that can
>> be directly measured, but still fun to think about.
>
>
> Yes, when we die, we survive in the closer normal world/computations, and it
> leads to an inflation of consistent continuations, but some can be very
> dreamy, of type []f, where everything is necessary and nothing possible. The
> question is: do the white rabbits come before a jump, or after a jump.

I remember a Japanase Anime that explored this idea at some point. A
group of people form a suicide pact, and while driving to the place
where they will kill themselves, the world starts gaining surreal
aspects. For example, they pass by themselves driving in the opposite
direction on the highway.

> We
> might escalade theoretical computer science sort of complexity jumps. But we
> have not yet derive the hydrogen atom so it is not before a long time we can
> answer those question, except by using computer science to provide
> counter-examples for theories trying to do so.
>
> The G-G* theory assures the existence of some tension between the harmonic
> hypostases, and the "material one", but quantum logic seems to be invariant.
> The physics of heaven is basically the same as the terrestrial physics, it
> seems.
>
> To get that inflation of "afterlife" (and prelife, parallel life, etc.) we
> don't have to assume the MWI, we have only to assume very elementary
> arithmetic, and a digitalist version of Mechanism, made sensefull thanks to
> Church's thesis.
>
>
>>
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_table#/media/File:Data_from_National_Vital_Statistics_Report_tPx.png
>
>
> My computer does not allow me to see this. Don't know why but she is more
> and more picky with the net.

Your computer is not the Universal Machine Bruno. It might need more
memory or a faster processor!

(it's a curve of probability of dying x age)

>
>>
>> Do you guys think this idea has any merit?
>
>
> A lot. But today, we cannot still explain why the weirdness is not bigger,
> even here and now,

Maybe it is big and we are used to it?

> but we can't be sure that we can renormalize all
> infinities in arithmetic (seen from inside), so the inflation of
> possibilities is a persistent threat of the universal machine sanity.
>
>
>
>>
>> Regarding the season, my wishes for you all: live long and prosper!
>
>
> Merry After-Christmas and Happy New Year!
>
> Bruno
>
>
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>
>
>> Telmo.
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