On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 12/27/2016 11:39 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 1:09 AM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/27/2016 3:40 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Although your evolution may be statistically improbable, mostly at the >>>>> biochemical level, there's no reason that the rest of the world should >>>>> show >>>>> any statistical strangeness. After all, your present existence is also >>>>> extremely improbable. >>>> >>>> But the rest of the world does show statistical strangeness, for >>>> example the apparent fine-tuning of the cosmological constant for life >>>> to be possible. >>> >>> >>> Whether the CC is fine-tuned or not is far from established. Vic Stenger >>> noted that the holographic principle drastically reduces the vacuum >>> degrees >>> of freedom and produces a CC estimate that's in the ball park. >> >> Thanks, didn't know that. >> >>> Of course >>> being consistent with life could just be a self-selection effect and it >>> should not cause other statistics, e.g. vital statistics, to be strange. >> >> True, but assuming the MWI, being consistent with one life becomes >> increasingly specific, no? > > > I'm not sure what you mean. Telmo Menezes is already the result of many > specific events and hence highly improbable in a sense; but it's the same > sense in which Brent Meeker winning the lottery is highly improbable but the > probably that someone wins is 0.999...
A couple of months ago I was home and went downstairs to buy something. A car crashed into the sidewalk a few meters in front of me. Had I left my house 5 seconds later, I would have been killed. I am assuming that my measure took a significant hit at that moment. The histories that allow for my existence become more and more refined. >From this example: I do not survive in all the universes where I decide to leave my house on a certain time window to buy bread. Or better yet, I do, but only in the cases where Mr. Schwarz decides to stay home instead of driving to my neighbourhood, or takes a different route instead. The old I get, the more history is constrained by my existence (from my perspective). My point is just this: that this effect must exist is the MWI is correct. It could be that it is so negligible as to not matter, at least until you get to 300 years old, but it is not zero and it must keep increasing. Do you think I am wrong, and any such effect is "cancelled out" somehow, or that there are good reasons to assume that it is negligible? > So if you find yourself to be 300yrs > old while statistics show that almost everyone dies before reaching 110, you > could take that as evidence for MWI. But there's no reason the statistics > would look strange to someone else. I am not claiming that the strangeness would be noticeable to anyone else -- just me, or at least me and other (unlikely) people from my perspective. > They would say you look strange - an > outlier. It's really no different that observing that you are named "Telmo > Menezes" and nobody else is - so it's statistically improbable to be named > "Telmo Menezes". Yes, but the probability of having an unusual name is actually quite high. Telmo. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
