On 28 Dec 2016, at 00:54, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 7:59 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 27 Dec 2016, at 12:03, Telmo Menezes wrote:
I take a break from the god-wars to propose an idea that I have been
thinking about. This is probably both silly and unoriginal, but here
it goes...
If we assume the MWI, isn't it the case that we should expect the
world to become weirder as we get older? My reasoning is simple: the
older you are, the lower your measure, the more specific events have
to "conspire" to keep you alive. As this specificity accumulates, it
increasingly bias the possible worlds.
One could even use a chart like the one below to predict where "the
weirdening" would accelerate. Of course this is not something that
can
be directly measured, but still fun to think about.
Yes, when we die, we survive in the closer normal world/
computations, and it
leads to an inflation of consistent continuations, but some can be
very
dreamy, of type []f, where everything is necessary and nothing
possible. The
question is: do the white rabbits come before a jump, or after a
jump.
I remember a Japanase Anime that explored this idea at some point. A
group of people form a suicide pact, and while driving to the place
where they will kill themselves, the world starts gaining surreal
aspects. For example, they pass by themselves driving in the opposite
direction on the highway.
It looks like the computer with the instrcution "kill the user", which
I explain in "Conscience & mécanisme" and which allow people or
collection of people to improve their life, except if they asked for
something impossible, in which case they succeed in killing themselves
in all branches of the universal wave, or in all computations (going
through the states where they design such a machine). Well, that is
only for illustrating a logical point, and should not be taken
literally, as we get eventually that things are more subtle.
We
might escalade theoretical computer science sort of complexity
jumps. But we
have not yet derive the hydrogen atom so it is not before a long
time we can
answer those question, except by using computer science to provide
counter-examples for theories trying to do so.
The G-G* theory assures the existence of some tension between the
harmonic
hypostases, and the "material one", but quantum logic seems to be
invariant.
The physics of heaven is basically the same as the terrestrial
physics, it
seems.
To get that inflation of "afterlife" (and prelife, parallel life,
etc.) we
don't have to assume the MWI, we have only to assume very elementary
arithmetic, and a digitalist version of Mechanism, made sensefull
thanks to
Church's thesis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_table#/media/
File:Data_from_National_Vital_Statistics_Report_tPx.png
My computer does not allow me to see this. Don't know why but she
is more
and more picky with the net.
Your computer is not the Universal Machine Bruno.
What? Of course it is. the infinite tape is the environment. It is not
part of the machine. Turing discover the universal number, that is, if
phi_i is an enumaration of the computable function by a Turing
machine, there is a (finite) number u such that phi_u (x, y) =
phi_x(y), provided that u has enough memory given. A universal machine
is a universal finite code only. I insist on this because Turing made
a pedagogical error in placing the infinite tape as part as the
definition of (any) Turing machine.
So I beg you to recognize the universality of my computer, even if
senile :)
It might need more
memory or a faster processor!
It surely needs that. But it needs mainly that the developpers do not
change the program specification so that you have to buy a new
computer. The application Firefox is quite clear about this for
example: it literally told me that I need a new processor, that is, a
new computer ...
(it's a curve of probability of dying x age)
Do you guys think this idea has any merit?
A lot. But today, we cannot still explain why the weirdness is not
bigger,
even here and now,
Maybe it is big and we are used to it?
Like the infinities in quantum field theory? In science we are
supposed to not accept such thing unless we find some explanation of
how to get rid of the weirdness.
But computationalism seems to go toward Feyman's explanation of
quantum physics. the weirdest "path" are eliminated by the phase
randomization, as we get already something close to the "phase" and
the "randomization", but it is a hell of a difficulty to get their
correct relations.
Bruno
but we can't be sure that we can renormalize all
infinities in arithmetic (seen from inside), so the inflation of
possibilities is a persistent threat of the universal machine sanity.
Regarding the season, my wishes for you all: live long and prosper!
Merry After-Christmas and Happy New Year!
Bruno
Telmo.
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