On 25 Jan 2017, at 02:19, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Aristotelean or dull and ant-intellectual, perhaps. I am thinking,
communication, trade, entertainment, is more enjoyable then platonic
idealism, don't you?
Yes. I think so.
Now science is enjoyable too, but is not done for enjoyment per se.
Truth is not always enjoyable, and science is not necessarily wishful
thinking.
Bruno
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From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
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Sent: Mon, Jan 23, 2017 6:08 am
Subject: Re: Correction to MWI post
On 22 Jan 2017, at 00:06, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Unless these universes are somehow, touchable, it's as if, they
don't exist.
Not at all. Linearitu of QM makes them untouchable, but we have
still to accept their physical existence because they do interfere
statistically. If not you need a theory like Bohm, with the known
difficulties which are insuperable in the relativistic domain, or
use the collapse of the wave, which leads to a dualism, a god
playing dice, action at distance, fuzzy notion of observers, etc.
Then with computationalism, we have the many-dreams anyway, already
in arithmetic, which is already assumed by the physicist.
Then also, are you sure you can touch more easily one universe?
Again, that leads to an absurd (non Turing emulable) role of matter
in psychology.
I love the topic, but it's kind of never never land.
This is perhaps due to Aristotelian prejudice. You seem to believe
in (at least one) universe playing a fundamental role ..
Ya got wormholes, I'm interested.
... or perhaps you are just not interested in fundamental question.
The whole point is that this question (the number of universe) is
amenable to empirical refutation. With computationalism, to put it
bluntly: there are zero universe, only a reality emerging from the
first person indeterminacy of the distributed subject in infinitely
may computations, constrained by the theoretical computer science
constraints imposed on self-observation.
Bruno
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From: Brent Meeker <[email protected]>
To: EveryThing <[email protected]>
Sent: Sat, Jan 21, 2017 3:39 pm
Subject: Fwd: Correction to MWI post
Phillip Ball's critique of MWI.
Brent
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Use this MWI to access the Aeon article. Sorry
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