On 31 Mar 2017, at 09:01, Kim Jones wrote:

A classic New Atheist quip these days is "Atheism is a religion the same way 'Off' is a TV channel."


Yes, that is eactly the exploitation of the confusion I described before. On facebook "atheist group" page, they have sent a post saying tha baby are born atheist because they don't believe in god a priori, but that means agnostic, with the mundane sense of agnostic.

And also, it is debatable, eventually babies believe that their mother made it all, and perhaps our parent, or the father (due to machism) is our first conception of God.

God is the fundamental reality we believe in; at least enough to give sense to the words "research", "exploration", etc.

People who say that theology is not a science are people usually not aware of their metaphysical assumptions, making it hard for them to doubt them. Usually they take fully granted the materialist theology of Aristotle.

To do science is to practice doubt and being modest. No serious scientist will ever say that he got the truth.he gives a theory, rules of deduction, and verification means.

Bruno



What are you if 'Off' is your favourite TV channel?

I often sit and stare at a blank TV screen and I have a 42" plasma so it's a pretty full-on experience of No Signal Whatsoever

I love it

This simply means that God is No Signal Whatsoever = Nothing

It was Russell Standish that taught me that Everything is the inside view of Nothing. I owe the guy a beer. Literally

K



On 31 Mar 2017, at 10:59 am, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:



On 3/30/2017 6:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 29 Mar 2017, at 21:33, Brent Meeker wrote:



On 3/29/2017 10:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The problem is that many atheists exploit a confusion between failing to believe in x, ~[]x, and believing in the inexistence or falsity of x, []~x.

On the contrary; it is religionists who exploit this confusion to falsely criticize atheism as "just another faith".

Then, how do you call those who believe that there is no God?

Strong atheists or those who think belief there is a God is a moral fault, "anti-theists".

Brent

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