On 24 Apr 2017, at 17:13, John Clark wrote:
Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have no doubt that the brain is a physical computer,
And I also have no doubt mind is what the brain does.
> and that computations performed by the brain are no
different from any other
computations.
Good.
> We are discussing physicalism and computationalism, and if
they are
compatible or not
Of course they are compatible!
Of course you believe that. But that is due to the identity link 1p-
mind with 3p-soul, that you use all the times, and when we show it to
not work, you just eliminate the 1-3 difference.
> Bruce repeatedly makes variation of the claim: "look, the
brain is
physical and the brain generates consciousness, these are the facts".
This is what I am replying to. It's an argument from authority
Argument from authority, what the hell are you talking about? In
every experiment ever performed when the physical brain changes
consciousness changes, and whenever consciousness changes a change
in the brain can be found. What more evidence do you need, what more
evidence could there even be??
You have to explain what is primary matter (the object of study of
physics when physicalism is assumed), and what role it has in enacting
consciousness.
> Ok, so you are rejecting computationalism.
I don't know about Bruce but I'm not rejecting
computationalism because I believe the mind is a information
processing system. what I'm rejecting is "comp"; Bruno claims his
silly homemade word means the same thing but clearly that's not true
and the fact is I don't know what it means and I'm not sure Bruno
does either.
Rhetorical tricks.
Bruno
John K Clark
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