> > > > On Sunday, April 23, 2017 at 1:50:12 PM UTC+2, telmo_menezes wrote: >> >> On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Bruce Kellett >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > On 23/04/2017 7:49 pm, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> >> >> I have experience of rocks, but not quanta. >> > >> > It is a pity that your don't really understand any physics. If you did, >> you >> > might see the inanity of a comment like this. >> >> Name-calling is so boring. >> > Which is of course, what the merry band of computationalists of this list never does, when it calls other folks physicalists and makes psychological/psychiatric generalizations and assessments of other peoples' motives in third person form on a public list as if they weren't part of the discussion. How polite and modest is that btw in computationalist terms? Seems solipsist to me in that those that disagree are just brainwashed zombies, while those that agree are part of the platonic club of mind that sees truth?
So who's dick is more primary? Computation or physics? As if computationalism could explain the p in Bp & p. It can't explain from where/how computation emerges, so any superiority assumed in the reasoning on account of explanatory depth or "primariness" depends on unclear linguistic pragmatics of some outdated (and quite physicalist, I might add) notion of expertise, authority, and outdated pedagogy from that's 30 years old at best: the experts have the floor, educating the rest of the world on their lack of primary explanatory power, while this supposed expertise is the exact same kind that the merry band of computationalists keeps arguing against and is supposedly not even tolerated in some comp theological frame, that needs no experts, but relies on Doctors to make its point. I fail to see where this personal, mystical interpretation of the world adds anything strongly convincing to the scientific canon, in say a Matiyasevich, Boolos, Gödel. Löb etc. technical sense, nor where this contributes to philosophy of mind or theology, other than that physicalists should be shot and/or converted. It's a cute personal mysticism of Bruno, which is quite pleasing in places although I'm no longer sure it inspires, or excites in face of how unsolvable arithmetic reality is. I ask so what?- even in theological terms- over the past year, and all I get are modesty and blasphemy admonitions that are quite Christian and fading. Existence is the ultimate blasphemy, so why give a fuck? Comp has no answer, other than hide behind your screen, find others who entertain your wishful thinking, and play classroom. Pedagogically, the discussion of late is so naive, I won't even start. PGC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
