On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 6:18 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

​>>> ​
>>> there is no proof that such larger prime number don't exist in the
>>> theory RA:
>>
>>
> ​>>​
>> Then theory RA sucks.
>
>
> ​>​
> It is a very useful theory
>

​
Useful maybe, but
​"​
*very*
*​"​*
useful? There is no largest prime number, if RA can't prove there is no
largest prime number then it is weaker than another axiomatic system that
can.

​> ​
> You could say that E. Coli sucks because it cannot write english.
>

Exactly. E. Coli
​ ​
is less useful at
​ ​
writing English literature than
​ ​
William Shakespeare
​ was​
because
​ ​
The Bard of Avon
​ had more​ literary power than bacteria does. As a poet E. Coli sucks.


> ​> ​
> RA can (and do) emulate PA, and all other Löbian machine including us.
>

I wish you's stop talking about that, even Google doesn't know what a
​ ​
"Löbian machine" is. Turing explained exactly how to build one of his
machines but I've never
​ ​
heard
​ ​
the construction details
​on​
​ ​
just
​ ​
how to manufacture one of your "Löbian machines".

​> ​
> It is good to keep in mind that emulating is not the same as proving or
> believing. RA can prove that PA can prove RA's consistency, but that does
> NOT make RA able to prove its own consistency
>

​Nothing powerful enough to do arithmetic can prove it's own consistency;
and if it is consistent then there are true statements that it can't prove.

 John K Clark


>

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