On 28 Jun 2017, at 16:03, John Clark wrote:

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>> Unicorns don't exist,

>In which theory?

Oh for christ's sake! This is really getting silly, now existence depends on theories.


Of course not.


But *asserting* an existence depends on a theory or belief of some subject doing the assertion.

For example, you just said to Adrian Chira: "Assuming there is a largest prime number leads to a logical contradiction, but assuming free will exists is like assuming Klogknee exists."

But Robinson Arithmetic, a weak but already sigma_1 complete theory (and thus Turing universal) is consistent with "there is a biggest prime number". You can add that axiom to RA without getting any contradiction. You were probably assuming Peano Arithmetic (which is Robinson arithmetic + the induction axiom), or you were assuming the standard model of arithmetic (which is a much stronger assumption than the axioms of PA).

Except for the here-and-now 1p experience (consciousness), all existence assertions presupposes some belief, that is, an unconscious or a conscious theory.

And the unicorn certainly exists. It is the national animal of Scotland!

Bruno







John K Clark


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