On 15/07/2017 9:48 pm, David Nyman wrote:
On 15 July 2017 at 03:22, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


    I think the possibility of non-quantum consciousness in a
    non-quantum world makes the success of this program less likely.


​Why? You yourself aren't such a "non-quantum consciousness" are you?​ The question is rather whether your 'quantum-consciousness' could indeed be derived from a 'classical' computational basis. And, if so, whether the apparent predominance of this particular species of 'physical observation' (as exemplified by your current experience and the apparent history of your physical constitution) over possible alternatives can be rationalised in terms of relative measure or some other equally determinative argument.

You have moved a long way from the original point I was making -- which is almost the opposite of what you are talking about here. The question was not whether quantum-consciousness could be derived from a classical computational basis, but rather whether a derivation of QM from consciousness could ever make sense. The argument being that we could have consciousness in a non-quantum world, in which case the derivation of QM from consciousness would be false -- the consciousness in question exists in an entirely non-quantum world. So the idea that consciousness implies QM is false.

Bruce

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