On 15 Jul 2017, at 20:54, Brent Meeker wrote:



On 7/15/2017 1:26 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
We, the universal machines, are distributed in an infinity of (arithmetical) computations below our substitution level on which our First Person experience is undetermined, and the laws to predict the observable must be given by a statistic on all computations, or it needs to invoke some metaphysical entity, be it Matter or God, doing a magical (non Turing emulable nor FPI recoverable) selection. That entails a "many computations" view of reality, and the quantum logical aspect of Nature is intuitively explained already.

Now, why negative amplitude of probability? This remains counter- intuitive, but is explained by the fact that the statistic are not on the 3p representational bodies in arithmetic, but on the 1p views, which necessitate to be defined by machine-self-reference. In that case, the non intuitive matter features are recovered by the nonintuitive logic of self-reference and its 1p variants, and indeed, we get a quantum logic which makes us expect a unique measure. It obeys, up to now at least, everything needed to have those negative probability amplitudes, as required.

That's interesting; but I don't see that it follows.

That is technical. It is based on the fact that the "material hypostases", given by the three logics S4Grz1, Z1*, X1* are enough close to the logic, known as B (in Modal logic) which provides an epistemic reading of a minimal quantum logic (a result obtained by Goldblatt(*)). That gives non commuting observable, having linear and symmetrical aspect, from which we expect to derive the unique measure à la Gleason. We should get the unitary representation of the evolution. More difficult: to get the tensor products. To progress we must solve mathematical open problem. My goal was , using digital mechanism, to transform a problem in philosophy (the mind-body problem) into a problem in mathematics (and let other solve it).



How do you get negative probabilities in your theory and what is this "statistic on all computations"?


The negative probabilities should come from the uniqueness of the measure itself coming from the mathematics of the material hypostases.

The statistic on all computations is explained, intuitively, by UDA (step 0-7): it is the global FPI, that is the FPI on the whole universal dovetailing, where we have an infinity of 3p extensions (but the proba are on the 1p extensions). To get the logic of the observable, we need a notion of "probability one". UDA suggests to define it by []p & <>t. []p, with p sigma_1, entails that p remains true in all extensions, and <>t makes sure that there is at least one extension (elimination of cul-de-sac worlds). We have to add it because the machine, by incompleteness, cannot prove <>t. I illustrated this with the cup of coffee promised to all reconstitutions. P(coffee) = 1, despite the subject cannot know in advance if it will be american or russian coffee!

Note that "sigma_1" entails computable, and vice versa. Sigma_1 is the arithmetical definition of "computable" (this is related to a well known normal form theorem by S.C. Kleene). The sigma_1 p verifies p -> []p, which is used to get the symmetries needed for the quantization (p -> []<>p).

Bruno

(*)

Goldblatt, R. I. (1974). Semantic Analysis of Orthologic. Journal of Philosophical Logic, 3:19-35. Also in Goldblatt 1993, page 81-97.

Goldblatt, R. I. (1993). Mathematics of Modality. CSLI Lectures Notes, Stanford California.





Brent

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