No chance of a pre- embedded proggie, in the universe that makes things that think, and self reference?
-----Original Message----- From: Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sun, Aug 27, 2017 8:49 pm Subject: Re: Is math real? On 8/27/2017 9:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > I think it is more pleasing when you can build the virtuous circle of > explanations out of simple ideas that we hardly doubt at the start, > like 2 * 12 = 24. And then, the point is that we have to do that, when > we take Mechanism seriously enough. We are back to Pythagoras, but > with the discovery of the universal machine and its quantum echo, and > a mathematically precise theology, containing physics, making it > testable. But you're still trying to make arithmetic the really really primary; whereas from the virtuous circle perspective it is the product of sapient thought. > > Physics is not a problem. Physicalist metaphysics is a problem, when > we assume Mechanism. But apparently, Mechanism explains it by showing > that if true, the physical reality is in the head of all universal > machine or number, and that can be tested. But the universal machine can only have a "head" in a certain kind of physical world...on which will via evolution inevitably produce mind. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
