No chance of a pre- embedded proggie, in the universe that makes things that think, and self reference?
-----Original Message----- From: Brent Meeker <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Aug 27, 2017 8:49 pm Subject: Re: Is math real? On 8/27/2017 9:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > I think it is more pleasing when you can build the virtuous circle of > explanations out of simple ideas that we hardly doubt at the start, > like 2 * 12 = 24. And then, the point is that we have to do that, when > we take Mechanism seriously enough. We are back to Pythagoras, but > with the discovery of the universal machine and its quantum echo, and > a mathematically precise theology, containing physics, making it > testable. But you're still trying to make arithmetic the really really primary; whereas from the virtuous circle perspective it is the product of sapient thought. > > Physics is not a problem. Physicalist metaphysics is a problem, when > we assume Mechanism. But apparently, Mechanism explains it by showing > that if true, the physical reality is in the head of all universal > machine or number, and that can be tested. But the universal machine can only have a "head" in a certain kind of physical world...on which will via evolution inevitably produce mind. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
