On 04 Sep 2017, at 21:54, smitra wrote:

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What we experience is not the physical world but a simulation of it by our brain. So, even if we assume that there exists a "primary" physical world, we're not really living in one, we're at most living in a World that's simulated inside it.

The fact that our primary experiences derive from a simulation allows magicians to earn a living. If you walk into your living room, what you see, what you experience is not the living room as it exists right now, it is almost entirely a reconstruction based on cached data from your memory.

Real time processing of data would be computationally infeasible, and we need to keep in mind that the brain evolved from a simple nervous system. In each step in the evolution where this became more complex, there would never be a system that could render a precise picture of the World, it was only ever about getting to a better response giving the inputs. And in principle all inputs from now and some time ago can contain useful information.

Yes. That is made explicit in Turing's paper, and that is what eventually convinced Gödel of Church's thesis.




So, this way we ended up with a brain that ends up simulating the World,

Not the World, but some part of it. OK.




the simulation is what we are (the set of everything we experience is an OM that defines us).

Very locally, and the OM makes sense only to a Universal machine, and unfortunately, to an infinity of universal machine distributed in arithmetic (or any semantic of a Turing universal system), and that is why at some point we must define the observable by a statistics on the couples (universal machine --- OM), i.e. the computations.

Bruno




Saibal

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