On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > >> >> nobody can feel to be in two places at once with computationalism >> > > > > That is not a sacred axiom of computationalism! > > > > It is simple consequence. > Show me how! Explain to me why computers can't do 2 things at the same time. Then tell me why even with todays technology by using telepresence you can feel like you're in one place even though you're brain is in another place far away. >> >> The Moscow man and the Washington man could be merged back together and >> the resulting >> Moscow/Washington man would have vivid memories of being in both cities >> at exactly the >> \ >> same time, as well as having memories of being just the Helsinki man. >> >> > > > > In a metaphorical sense? > No, in a literal sense. > > > But strictly speaking, after fusing, the guy will remember having been in > only one city > If after fusing the Moscow man and the Washington man back together and the resulting being remembers having been in only one city don't you think it's a little odd that being is unable to say what the name of that one and only one city is? I think it's odd. without having been able to predict which one in > > Helsinki before. > So if you asked the newly refused Moscow/Washington man "What is the name of that one and only one city you ended up seeing after Helsinki?", do you think he'd give you that one and only one name or do you think he's look at you like you were crazy for asking such a thing? > That's right, "he" still doesn't know and "he" will NEVER know because > nobody will ever > know what "he" means in the above. > > > Then computationalism is false. > Bullshit. > > > Of course the helsinki man will be able to answer and verify the > prediction. > T he Helsinki man ?!! T he Helsinki man can't verify anything because after the duplication nobody is in Helsinki anymore. > >> >> I still don't understand why you're more interested in expectations >> than reality > > > > > Reality is the goal. > Expectations are often proven to be wrong, reality never is. John K Clark > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
