On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 11:24:36 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 1:16 PM, <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > > >> Since your conclusions seem immensely more bizarre than collapse of the >> wf, >> >> your interpretation of what the SE means must be in error. >> > > It's a matter of taste I suppose. To me everything that can happen does > happen is less bizarre than the future influencing the past and things only > existing when I look at them. > > Those who believe in non-locality as established by experimental evidence, > such as Brent and Bruce, and I assume Lawrence as well, do NOT conclude > this implies the future influences the past. Moreover, as I pointed out > clearly, there is no need of an observer for something to exist. When the > Earth-Moon system formed, there were no observers. Do you doubt it > happened? You're misinterpreting the results of QM. AG > > But it really doesn't matter, > as long as there is no logical self contradiction there is nothing wrong > with bizarre > . > Occam's razor doesn't say we should embrace the least bizarre theory > , > it says we should embrace the simplest theory > , > and > one that doesn't need to explain the collapse is simpler than one that > does. > > Unlike Copenhagen Many Worlds has no need to to explain how when or why > the wave function collapse > s > because the hypothesized collapse has no observable consequences. The wave > collapse is a needless complication that does nothing but get rid of the > multiverse for people who don't like the idea of a multiverse, its wheels > within wheels rather like the epicycles of old for people who didn't like > the idea of the planets going around the Sun rather than the Earth. > > The wave function says the multiverse exists, to get rid of it additional > complications are needed and those complications do not improve the ability > to predict experimental results one bit > , so they have no point. > > > John K Clark > > > > >
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