On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 8:21 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Those who believe in non-locality as established by experimental > evidence, such as Brent and Bruce, and I assume Lawrence as well, do NOT > conclude this implies the future influences the past. > If you also believe in realism then you must believe you have found a flaw in Leggett's reasoning when that Nobel Prize winner came up with his inequality. I am all ears! > > > Moreover, as I pointed out clearly, there is no need of an observer for > something to exist. > > I agree, but you're not a fan of Many Worlds so you shouldn't agree. > > > When the Earth-Moon system formed, there were no observers. Do you doubt > it happened? > I don't doubt it happened, but you should. The very heart the Copenhagen interpretation is that things do not have definite properties before they are measured, and I don't think there was much measuring going on 4.5 billion years ago. But I don't doubt it happened because as a fan of Many Worlds all I need is to believe a change, any sort of change, could exist 4.5 billion years ago. However a believer in Copenhagen needs to believe something called "measurement" existed 4.5 billion years ago, and I have considerably more doubt about that. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
