On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 5:21:40 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 8:44:18 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 5:29:01 PM UTC, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:51 PM, <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> > >>>> If, as you claim, any fundamental parameters can exist, >>>> >>> >>> >>> That >>> is NOT >>> >>> what I claimed >>> . >>> I claimed any >>> f >>> undamental parameter >>> that >>> can exist >>> does exist, I did NOT claim >>> any >>> f >>> undamental parameter >>> can exist. There is a HUGE difference! >>> >>> >>> >>>> > >>>> then there would be universes where matter could NOT exist, and the >>>> reproducing of the measuring scenario would be IMPOSSIBLE! >>>> >>> >>> And that is why the MWI says everything that can happen does happen, >>> not everything that can't happen does happen. >>> >>> > >>>> You need help, badly, urgently. >>> >>> >>> Hmm, after communicating with you for a while I have reached the >>> following conclusion: >>> >>> you sir are an ass. >>> >> > Have you been speaking with my wife lately? LOL. Can't deny that, but > here's what I wrote and your response: > > *AG >For string theory, the multiverse universes could have radically > different fundamental parameters; e.g., Coulomb's law with force a function > of 1/ r^3, and/or no gravity, and/or whatever. In MWI, all alleged > universes have the SAME laws,* > > JC> No, > > MMI alleges that everything that can happen does happen, in a universe > with 4 spacial dimension Coulombs law would have a function of 1/ r^3 > , If string theory is right about such a universe not violating the laws > of logic then that universe can happen. and if that universe can happen > then > MWI > says it does happen. > And such a universe would exist in the Eternal Inflation > multiverse > too. > > *But that's NOT what MMI alleges. That's essentially what Tegmark claims, > but the Many Worlds of MWI have the SAME defining parameters as our > universe since OUR universe is claimed to be reproduced EXACTLY, except for > the measurements realized in different universes when a quantum experiment > is performed in OUR universe. Of course, if we lived in a universe with > DIFFERENT defining parameters, I suppose MWI would claim copies of those > would be identical, but this is my first encounter with the EXPANDED, > TEGMARKIAN-LIKE claim that the MWI ALSO claims all possible universes must > exist. AG* >
*In fact, when you think about it, the possible universes claimed by MWI is HUGELY GREATER than the number claimed by string theory EVEN IF OUR UNIVERSE IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE UNIVERSE -- not a mere 10^500 -- since there's no limit on how many universes metastasize when Joe the Plumber enters a casino (or the lab in an electron double slit experiment) and pulls the slot machine only one time. AG* John K Clark > >> You shouldn't have deleted what you actually wrote. Then we could judge >> what your words conveyed. I don't time now to dredge it up. In any event, >> the parable about the slot machine says it all. AG >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> AG >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
