On 11/29/2017 9:34 PM, [email protected] wrote:


On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 5:21:40 AM UTC, [email protected] wrote:



    On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 8:44:18 PM UTC,
    [email protected] wrote:



        On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 5:29:01 PM UTC, John Clark
        wrote:

            On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:51 PM, <[email protected]>wrote:

                ​> ​
                If, as you claim, any fundamental parameters can exist,


            ​
            That
            ​ is NOT​
            ​
             what I claimed
            ​.​
            I claimed any
            ​ ​f
            undamental parameter
            ​ that​
            can exist
            ​ does exist, I did NOT ​claim
            any
            ​ ​f
            undamental parameter
             can exist. There is a HUGE difference!

                ​> ​
                then there would be universes where matter could NOT
                exist, and the reproducing of the measuring scenario
                would be IMPOSSIBLE!


            ​And that is why the MWI says everything that can happen
            does happen, not everything that can't happen does happen.

                ​> ​
                You need help, badly, urgently.


            ​Hmm, after communicating with ​you for a while I have
            reached the following conclusion:
            ​ you sir are an ass.


    Have you been speaking with my wife lately? LOL. Can't deny that,
    but here's what I wrote and your response:

    *
    AG >For string theory, the multiverse universes could have
    radically different fundamental parameters; e.g., Coulomb's law
    with force a function of 1/ r^3, and/or no gravity, and/or
    whatever. In MWI, all alleged universes have the SAME laws,
    *

    JC> No,
    ​
    MMI alleges that everything that can happen does happen, in a
    universe with 4 spacial dimension Coulombs law would have a
    function of 1/ r^3
    ​, If string theory is right about such a universe not violating
    the laws of logic then that universe can happen. and if that
    universe can happen then
    MWI
    ​says it does happen.
     And such a universe would exist in the Eternal Inflation
    ​multiverse​
     too.​
    *
    But that's NOT what MMI alleges. That's essentially what Tegmark
    claims, but the Many Worlds of MWI have the SAME defining
    parameters as our universe since OUR universe is claimed to be
    reproduced EXACTLY, except for the measurements realized in
    different universes when a quantum experiment is performed in OUR
    universe.  Of course, if we lived in a universe with DIFFERENT
    defining parameters, I suppose MWI would claim copies of those
    would be identical, but this is my first encounter with the
    EXPANDED, TEGMARKIAN-LIKE claim that the MWI ALSO claims all
    possible universes must exist. AG*


*In fact, when you think about it, the possible universes claimed by MWI is HUGELY GREATER than the number claimed by string theory EVEN IF OUR UNIVERSE IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE UNIVERSE -- not a mere 10^500 -- since there's no limit on how many universes metastasize when Joe the Plumber enters a casino (or the lab in an electron double slit experiment) and pulls the slot machine only one time. AG*

The string theory number is the number of possible different physics.  Each different physics gives rise to a branching sequence of MWI.

Brent

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