On 11/29/2017 10:17 PM, [email protected] wrote:


On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 6:09:26 AM UTC, Brent wrote:



    On 11/29/2017 9:34 PM, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote:


    On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 5:21:40 AM UTC,
    [email protected] wrote:



        On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 8:44:18 PM UTC,
        [email protected] wrote:



            On Wednesday, November 29, 2017 at 5:29:01 PM UTC, John
            Clark wrote:

                On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:51 PM,
                <[email protected]>wrote:

                    ​> ​
                    If, as you claim, any fundamental parameters can
                    exist,


                ​
                That
                ​ is NOT​
                ​
                 what I claimed
                ​.​
                I claimed any
                ​ ​f
                undamental parameter
                ​ that​
                can exist
                ​ does exist, I did NOT ​claim
                any
                ​ ​f
                undamental parameter
                 can exist. There is a HUGE difference!

                    ​> ​
                    then there would be universes where matter could
                    NOT exist, and the reproducing of the measuring
                    scenario would be IMPOSSIBLE!


                ​And that is why the MWI says everything that can
                happen does happen, not everything that can't happen
                does happen.

                    ​> ​
                    You need help, badly, urgently.


                ​Hmm, after communicating with ​you for a while I
                have reached the following conclusion:
                ​ you sir are an ass.


        Have you been speaking with my wife lately? LOL. Can't deny
        that, but here's what I wrote and your response:

        *
        AG >For string theory, the multiverse universes could have
        radically different fundamental parameters; e.g., Coulomb's
        law with force a function of 1/ r^3, and/or no gravity,
        and/or whatever. In MWI, all alleged universes have the SAME
        laws,
        *

        JC> No,
        ​
        MMI alleges that everything that can happen does happen, in a
        universe with 4 spacial dimension Coulombs law would have a
        function of 1/ r^3
        ​, If string theory is right about such a universe not
        violating the laws of logic then that universe can happen.
        and if that universe can happen then
        MWI
        ​says it does happen.
         And such a universe would exist in the Eternal Inflation
        ​multiverse​
         too.​
        *
        But that's NOT what MMI alleges. That's essentially what
        Tegmark claims, but the Many Worlds of MWI have the SAME
        defining parameters as our universe since OUR universe is
        claimed to be reproduced EXACTLY, except for the measurements
        realized in different universes when a quantum experiment is
        performed in OUR universe.  Of course, if we lived in a
        universe with DIFFERENT defining parameters, I suppose MWI
        would claim copies of those would be identical, but this is
        my first encounter with the EXPANDED, TEGMARKIAN-LIKE claim
        that the MWI ALSO claims all possible universes must exist. AG*


    *In fact, when you think about it, the possible universes claimed
    by MWI is HUGELY GREATER than the number  claimed by string
    theory EVEN IF OUR UNIVERSE IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE UNIVERSE -- not
    a mere 10^500 -- since there's no limit on how many universes
    metastasize when Joe the Plumber enters a casino (or the lab in
    an electron double slit experiment) and pulls the slot machine
    only one time. AG*

    The string theory number is the number of possible different
    physics.  Each different physics gives rise to a branching
    sequence of MWI.

    Brent


Right, but according to MWI branching only occurs when a quantum experiment is done in one of those universes, AG

That's not so clear.  When a radioactive nucleus decays it makes a difference which we can measure later.  If it happens in a crystal it leaves a defect track and according to MWI that makes it a classically discernible different world.  But when the nucleus decays is a continuous variable.  So a continuum of worlds is generated.

Brent

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