Hi David,

> Sometimes your responses really puzzle me Brent. What you say above almost
> makes it sound as though you just don't get the distinction Telmo is
> pointing to. But based on what you have said at other times I think you do
> get it, but because you also know that there's really no explicating that
> distinction in a purely third person way, you sometimes want to say that
> that's as far as explanation can legitimately go and the rest is just woo.

Thanks for saying. This puzzles me too. It's not just Brent, I know a
lot of smart people that do exactly the same.

> Cute but irrelevant. As has been said when we've discussed Telmo's point in
> the past, the fact of the matter is that ontological reduction *just is*
> ontological elimination. That's the whole point of the reductive project and
> precisely therein lies its explanatory power. But somehow that same
> ontological reduction doesn't entail *epistemological* elimination. There's
> the rub.

Precisely.
For me, and for these reasons, emergentism in its current form is woo.

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