On 3/8/2018 9:48 AM, [email protected] wrote:


On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 12:36:07 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:



    On 3/8/2018 4:24 AM, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote:


    On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 11:04:09 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:



        On 3/7/2018 5:39 AM, [email protected] wrote:
        *Thanks for your time and effort, but I don't think you
        understand my*
        *question. Suppose a test particle is restrained spatially,
        say in *
        *the Sun's gravitational field. When released, it starts to
        move (toward *
        *the Sun). How does GR explain this motion? By the advance
        of time? AG*

        Time was advancing all along.  Your restraint was a force
        causing the particle to follow a non-geodesic path through
        space-time.  When you released it, it then followed the
        "straightest path possible", i.e. a geodesic.

        Brent


    So time is the "culprit". What has this resumption of spatial
    motion (along a geodesic in spacetime) have to do with
    conservation of momentum, if at all ? TIA, AG

    It's not a "resumption" of motion; it's just tilting the direction
    of motion from being along your coordinate time line (which you
    think of as 'not moving') to being along the geodesic (which you
    think of as 'falling').  The 4-momentum of the system, including
    whatever device you were using to keep the particle from falling
    is conserved.

    Didn't you say you had read Epstein?

    Brent


I said I was reading Epstein. I have it with me while traveling. If 4 momentum is conserved, isn't that the same as saying motion on a geodesic is postulated?

No. Motion on a geodesic is force-free motion.  If you have rocket, for example, you can travel on a non-geodesic, but 4-momentum is still conserved considering your rocket and its exhaust.

Incidentally, if one accepts GR as a "valid" model of gravity, doesn't that preclude any coupling between gravity and EM? AG

Photons couple the same as other mass-energy, they travel on geodesics absent some other interaction.

Brent

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