On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 9:57:38 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote: > > > > On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 9:29:57 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 3/16/2018 6:07 PM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 8:33:37 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 3/16/2018 5:13 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: >>> >>> Feynman also made the quip that simulation is like masturbation; it is >>> fine until you start thinking it is the real thing. >>> >>> >>> Actually Feynman's quip was about mathematics as compared to physics. >>> >>> Brent >>> >> >> Is there really any plausible argument for the claim that the brain >> functions like a computer, and that one of its outputs is consciousness? >> >> >> It is more than plausible that one of the outputs of the brain is >> consciousness. There are chemical and electrical experiments showing that >> the consciousness is affected by changes to the brain and vice versa. >> Whether the brain functions like a computer depends a lot on what you mean >> by "like". So far as we know all physical systems are computable to >> abritrary accuracy. So it would be very surprising if something the brain >> does is uncomputable, except for some randomness via QM. >> >> Brent >> > > What does it mean that "all physical systems are computable to arbitrary > accuracy"? What does "computable" mean in this context? > > Another issue worth mentioning is how the macro world was generated from > the quantum world. ISTM, that consciousness is an emergent property; a > macro property emerging from quantum properties. If we don't understand how > the macro world was generated from the quantum world, how can we hope to > explain consciousness? Aren't we putting the cart before the horse? > > TIA, AG >
*More specifically, in the wire diagram and functioning of brain cells, aren't they more analog than digital; that is, isn't it inaccurate to model the connections are being strictly ON or OFF (like the bits in a computer), but nothing in between? AG * > >> >> If consciousness cannot be explained by computation, the result of this >> immortality project will be to create FRANKENSTEIN'S. AG >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
