On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 4:13:43 PM UTC-4, [email protected] wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 3:48:44 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 3/27/2018 8:34 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> >> *But what you can never do IMO, is determine whether either Rover, in any >> circumstance, has self knowledge or self perception, or can experience >> rudimentary or complex sensations.* >> >> >> You could interview them, just as you judge whether another person is >> perceptive and self-aware or not. >> >> Brent >> > > *The difference is that persons evaluated as self-aware were created in > the identical process as the human observer who is self referential. In the > case of a cleverly programmed computer, there would be no interview that > could prove anything. No way to pass the Turing Test (or fail, depending on > your definition of the test). ISTM that this is a case where we really > don't know, what we don't know. AG* >
*The fatal flaw in Clark's model is that it's not all about the brain. It's also about the body, which keeps sending signals to the brain. A disembodied brain cannot model a human being. AG * > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
