On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 4:13:43 PM UTC-4, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, March 27, 2018 at 3:48:44 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 3/27/2018 8:34 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> *But what you can never do IMO, is determine whether either Rover, in any >> circumstance, has self knowledge or self perception, or can experience >> rudimentary or complex sensations.* >> >> >> You could interview them, just as you judge whether another person is >> perceptive and self-aware or not. >> >> Brent >> > > *The difference is that persons evaluated as self-aware were created in > the identical process as the human observer who is self referential. In the > case of a cleverly programmed computer, there would be no interview that > could prove anything. No way to pass the Turing Test (or fail, depending on > your definition of the test). ISTM that this is a case where we really > don't know, what we don't know. AG* >
*The fatal flaw in Clark's model is that it's not all about the brain. It's also about the body, which keeps sending signals to the brain. A disembodied brain cannot model a human being. AG * > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
