On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:55:48 AM UTC, [email protected] wrote:
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> On Thursday, June 14, 2018 at 8:15:59 PM UTC, [email protected] wrote:
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>> On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 11:30:27 PM UTC, Jason wrote:
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>>> Physical Theories, Eternal Inflation, and Quantum Universe 
>>> <https://arxiv.org/abs/1104.2324>, Yasunori Nomura
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>>> We conclude that the eternally inflating multiverse and many worlds in
>>> quantum mechanics are the same. Other important implications include: 
>>> global spacetime
>>> can be viewed as a derived concept; the multiverse is a transient 
>>> phenomenon during the
>>> world relaxing into a supersymmetric Minkowski state. We also present a 
>>> theory of “initial
>>> conditions” for the multiverse. By extrapolating our framework to the 
>>> extreme, we arrive at a
>>> picture that the entire multiverse is a fluctuation in the stationary, 
>>> fractal “mega-multiverse,”
>>> in which an infinite sequence of multiverse productions occurs.
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>>> "Therefore, we conclude that the multiverse is the same as (or a 
>>> specific manifestation
>>> of ) many worlds in quantum mechanics."
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>>> "In eternal inflation, however, one first picks a causal patch; then one 
>>> looks for observers in it.” Our framework does not follow this approach. We 
>>> instead pick an observer first, and then construct the relevant spacetime 
>>> regions associated with it.
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>>> Instead of admitting the existence of the “beginning,” we may require 
>>> that the quantum observer principle is respected for the whole history of 
>>> spacetime. In this case, the beginning of our multiverse is a fluctuation 
>>> of a larger structure, whose beginning is also a fluctuation of an even 
>>> larger structure, and this series goes on forever. This leads to the 
>>> picture that our multiverse arises as a fluctuation in a huge, stationary 
>>> “megamultiverse,” which has a fractal structure."
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>>> The Multiverse Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics 
>>> <https://arxiv.org/abs/1105.3796>, Raphael Bousso and Leonard Susskind
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>>> In both the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics and the 
>>> multiverse
>>> of eternal inflation the world is viewed as an unbounded collection of 
>>> parallel universes.
>>> A view that has been expressed in the past by both of us is that there 
>>> is no need to
>>> add an additional layer of parallelism to the multiverse in order to 
>>> interpret quantum
>>> mechanics. To put it succinctly, the many-worlds and the multiverse are 
>>> the same
>>> thing [1].
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>>> Jason
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>> *Not right. Not even wrong. AG. *
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> Eternal inflation and string theory imply universes created by natural 
> processes. The jury is out on those. OTOH, the MWI has human beings 
> creating universes by going into a lab and doing trivial quantum 
> experiments. Of course they're they same (for idiots). AG 
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... Of course they're the same (for idiots).  

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