On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:55:48 AM UTC, [email protected] wrote: > > > > On Thursday, June 14, 2018 at 8:15:59 PM UTC, [email protected] wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 11:30:27 PM UTC, Jason wrote: >>> >>> >>> Physical Theories, Eternal Inflation, and Quantum Universe >>> <https://arxiv.org/abs/1104.2324>, Yasunori Nomura >>> >>> We conclude that the eternally inflating multiverse and many worlds in >>> quantum mechanics are the same. Other important implications include: >>> global spacetime >>> can be viewed as a derived concept; the multiverse is a transient >>> phenomenon during the >>> world relaxing into a supersymmetric Minkowski state. We also present a >>> theory of “initial >>> conditions” for the multiverse. By extrapolating our framework to the >>> extreme, we arrive at a >>> picture that the entire multiverse is a fluctuation in the stationary, >>> fractal “mega-multiverse,” >>> in which an infinite sequence of multiverse productions occurs. >>> >>> "Therefore, we conclude that the multiverse is the same as (or a >>> specific manifestation >>> of ) many worlds in quantum mechanics." >>> >>> "In eternal inflation, however, one first picks a causal patch; then one >>> looks for observers in it.” Our framework does not follow this approach. We >>> instead pick an observer first, and then construct the relevant spacetime >>> regions associated with it. >>> >>> Instead of admitting the existence of the “beginning,” we may require >>> that the quantum observer principle is respected for the whole history of >>> spacetime. In this case, the beginning of our multiverse is a fluctuation >>> of a larger structure, whose beginning is also a fluctuation of an even >>> larger structure, and this series goes on forever. This leads to the >>> picture that our multiverse arises as a fluctuation in a huge, stationary >>> “megamultiverse,” which has a fractal structure." >>> >>> >>> The Multiverse Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics >>> <https://arxiv.org/abs/1105.3796>, Raphael Bousso and Leonard Susskind >>> >>> In both the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics and the >>> multiverse >>> of eternal inflation the world is viewed as an unbounded collection of >>> parallel universes. >>> A view that has been expressed in the past by both of us is that there >>> is no need to >>> add an additional layer of parallelism to the multiverse in order to >>> interpret quantum >>> mechanics. To put it succinctly, the many-worlds and the multiverse are >>> the same >>> thing [1]. >>> >>> >>> Jason >>> >> >> *Not right. Not even wrong. AG. * >> > > Eternal inflation and string theory imply universes created by natural > processes. The jury is out on those. OTOH, the MWI has human beings > creating universes by going into a lab and doing trivial quantum > experiments. Of course they're they same (for idiots). AG >
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