On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On 6/19/2018 6:55 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
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> On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:16 AM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]>
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>> On 6/18/2018 4:09 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
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>>> It will take a lot of work under his approach, but I am not aware of any
>>> other system proposed by anyone, which even has a chance at this.
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>> Penrose's gravity induced collapse has as good a chance as Bruno's,
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> At least Penrose has drawn a line in the sand, which can be experimentally
> refuted.  Though I don't see any motivation for any collapse base theory
> since Everett provided an account of collapse without having to assume it.
>  (Again this is like adding appending motive demon theory, which is
> entirely superfluous and adds whose sole motivation is to preserve the
> notion of collapse as physically real rather than apparent)
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>> and a better chance of predicting some surprising but true physics. Some
>> version of transactional QM also has a chance.
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> Transactional QM is another complication of the theory, proposing things
> we have no evidence for to explain things which have already been explained
> from a much simpler theory.
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> You only think it's simpler because you close your eyes to the last step
> in going from a FAPP diagonal reduced density matrix to an actually
> diagonal reduced density matrix.  A step that is perfectly equivalent to
> Bohr and Heisenberg's collapse postulate, except it tells you where to hide
> the collapse.
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Is the appearance of collapse not describable from the other postulates?

Jason

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