On 25 June 2018 at 19:54, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 6/25/2018 8:06 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > I don't think that's the case. C seems to me to be capable to explaining > anything (e.g. we're living in the Matrix). The theories of M are certainly > incomplete, but if there is empirical data inconsistent with those theories > it just shows they have limited domain. If there is empirical data that is > impossible to include in M how would we know; how could we be sure that it > could not be included? > > I don't see how that fact that I am conscious and have a first person > experience of reality could be explained by M. > > I suggest you should think about what you accept as good explanations of > other phenomenon.
I gave several examples before, regarding emergentist explanations. Suppose that Darwinian theory has not been discovered, and we have the following conversation: T: Where does life come from? B: Ah, well, it emerges from chemistry. T: Fine, how does that work? B: I told you, it emerges from chemistry. What kind of explanation were you expecting? If you take Thomas Kuhn's ideas seriously, then consciousness seems to be the current sticking point that is likely to trigger the next paradigm shift. The exercise we've been through is one where you insist that what Kuhn refers to as "normal science" can eventually crack the problem, while I insist that it cannot. This sort of thing happened before, it's not new. Telmo. > Brent > "A good answer is one that doesn't spoil the question." > -- P. T. Bridgeport (character in Walt Kelly's "Pogo") > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
