On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 5:08:30 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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> On 7/10/2018 3:30 PM, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote:
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> *More and more, Dirac's claim seems to be an illusion that most everyone 
> has fallen in love with. Consider the example of a vector in a plane 
> decomposed as a superposition of unit vectors in some orthogonal basis, Not 
> an exact analogy to the quantum superposition of course, but worth thinking 
> about. How many decompositions are possible? Well, rotations of the 
> original orthogonal basis give an uncountable number of DIFFERENT 
> decompositions. In fact, the set of NON orthogonal pairs define another 
> uncountable set of bases, each of which results in a DIFFERENT 
> decomposition. So in this example, it makes no sense to say the original 
> vector is in two states simultaneously in some basis, when an uncountable 
> set of other bases exist, each with a different decomposition.  In the 
> quantum case, it is natural and convenient to restrict ourselves to the 
> basis in which the system is being measured. But even here, other bases 
> exist which allow other, different, decompositions of the system into 
> superpositions, sometimes countable, sometimes not, depending on the 
> system. *
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> All true.  True of any vector space.  SO WHAT?
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*The "SO WHAT?" is that since many superpositions exist, it makes little 
sense to single out one, even if it seems natural and convenient (say, in 
the basis being measured), and assert the system is in both component 
states simultanoeusly prior to measurement. AG *

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> *So, IMO, Dirac's claim fails, not to mention the fact that his "argument" 
> in favor of simultaneity*
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> "simultaneity" doesn't appear in Dirac's paragraph.  So your rant is 
> unclear.
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> * of superposition states prior to measurement, is really just an 
> assertion. AG*
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> Instead of picking on a paragraph of Dirac taken out of context, why don't 
> you go read a modern version.  Try Asher Peres, "Quantum Theory: Concepts 
> and Methods" pp 50, 116-117
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> Brent
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