> On 30 Jul 2018, at 07:10, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 7/29/2018 8:11 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
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>> On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 6:44 PM, <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>> On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 11:23:49 PM UTC, [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 10:31:05 PM UTC, Jason wrote:
>> Quantum computers represent a disproof of the conjecture that the wave 
>> function is merely a convenience or tool for estimating probabilities of 
>> experimental outcomes, rather than something that is real. The reason: it 
>> does things we cannot.
>> 
>> Jason
>> 
>> Can you be specific? Why does quantum computing depend on both states of a 
>> qubit(?) be occupied simultaneously? Can the system toggle between those 
>> states, yet not be in both simultaneously? Couldn't quantum computing work, 
>> or say be conceptualized with his model? TIA, AG
>> 
>> IOW, is the model of superposition you use in quantum computing a necessary 
>> condition for its success, or could you use the information-only model of 
>> the superposition and get the same result. AG 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> In order to explain the final result of the computation appearing in the 
>> measured qubits, each of the intermediate states must have existed and 
>> interacted, all the while remaining in a super position (completely isolated 
>> from the environment that contains the quantum computer) for the duration of 
>> the computation.  The computation might have been a very long one, and may 
>> have involved vast numbers of states simultaneously held by the qubits 
>> during the computation.  Each of these states is designed by the quantum 
>> computation to interfere in such a way to that in most of the branches the 
>> measured qubits will yield the same result.
>> 
>> We know we can prepare a quantum computation. We know we can measure the 
>> qubits afterwards to get the final answer.
>> The big question of "what is going on in the middle?" can only be answered 
>> by resorting to asking what the theory can tell us of what the wave function 
>> is doing to perform and implement the computation while we are not measuring 
>> it.
>> 
>> If one denies the existence of the wave function however, it leaves no room 
>> for talking about these intermediate states that are necessary to explain 
>> how the final result of the computation ends up in the qubits.
> 
> And all those qubits exist in the same world  since they have to interfere in 
> order to amplify the probability of the result and suppress others.


If they interfere it means those qubits exist in the same wave or multiverse. 

In a sense, the universal wave described all the internal relative states, and 
that gives rise to diverging quasi-classical histories. The word “world” was 
ambiguous in your phrasing.

Bruno



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