On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 4:04:41 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 28 Sep 2018, at 11:32, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 1:02:36 AM UTC, [email protected] > wrote: >> >> Hello I think this good forum for this topic - what do you think about >> Mathematical Universe, there are very big arguments for that hypothesis: >> f >> - applicability of mathematic, to natural sciences >> - all we discovere are structures and I didnt find explanation of the >> diference beetwen physical structures and mathematical structures. >> - scientists and philosophers of science tend to affirm belive in diverse >> structure and homogeneous substance (neutral monism) or mathematicism vide >> Ladyman, Ross, French, Tegmark etc. >> >> What are your thoughts. >> > > If it's what I think it is, it's demonstrably wrong. One counter example > suffices; there are plane wave solutions to Maxwell's equations, but if you > know what plane waves are, they clearly do NOT exist in physical reality. > > > > With mathematicalism, we don’t assume that there is a > (primitive/irreducible) physical reality. > > You are begging the question. >
*In what way? The MUH says, for example, that for every mathematical solution or equation, there is a (perceived) physical universe mapped identically from, or into that solution or equation. I gave a simple counter example. AG* > > Since the antic dream argument, we know that observation cannot be used to > prove that anything exist, but an observer. > > Bruno > > > > If this is correct, other models also fall by the wayside. AG > >> >> >> Regards >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <javascript:>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 4:04:41 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 28 Sep 2018, at 11:32, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 1:02:36 AM UTC, [email protected] > wrote: >> >> Hello I think this good forum for this topic - what do you think about >> Mathematical Universe, there are very big arguments for that hypothesis: >> f >> - applicability of mathematic, to natural sciences >> - all we discovere are structures and I didnt find explanation of the >> diference beetwen physical structures and mathematical structures. >> - scientists and philosophers of science tend to affirm belive in diverse >> structure and homogeneous substance (neutral monism) or mathematicism vide >> Ladyman, Ross, French, Tegmark etc. >> >> What are your thoughts. >> > > If it's what I think it is, it's demonstrably wrong. One counter example > suffices; there are plane wave solutions to Maxwell's equations, but if you > know what plane waves are, they clearly do NOT exist in physical reality. > > > > With mathematicalism, we don’t assume that there is a > (primitive/irreducible) physical reality. > > You are begging the question. > > Since the antic dream argument, we know that observation cannot be used to > prove that anything exist, but an observer. > > Bruno > > > > If this is correct, other models also fall by the wayside. AG > >> >> >> Regards >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <javascript:>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
