> On 29 Sep 2018, at 02:38, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> On 28 Sep 2018, at 06:29, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> But you do not seem to go the additional step of saying that mathematical >>> objects, numbers and so on, are objects that actually exist (which would be >>> a form of platonism). >> >> I use “exist” in the same sense as “it exist a number x such that x + 7 = >> 8”. > > That is precisely why you need to study the philosophy of mathematics.
I love, but that is not relevant here, at least before to study the science. > It might teach you not to confuse the use of the existential quantifier with > an ontology. You call confusion what is simply the definition to start with. You do seem playing rhetorical semantical game to avoid studying a theory. By definition: the ontology is given by the the things you NEED to assume, because no theories at all can explain their existence. With mechanism, that ONLY number exists is a consequence of the belief that a physical universe exist, and that I reline live in that universe when the constituents of the brain are permuted in some functional way. So, what you call confusion is the result of work. I guess you call it a confusion because it informs your favorite ontology (a physical world perhaps?). Let us do science first, and discuss philosophy after. I know that doing science in metaphysics and theology is not common, but that is what the mechanist assumption makes possible to do, and that is what I have done (which obviously do not please to many philosophers, like they were not pleased when Newton invaded their territory too). Also, when you do a critics, you must make it in a much more precise way. If you really think there is a confusion somewhere, you need to explain it in detail so that everyone see what you mean. Bruno > > Bruce > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
