> On 27 Sep 2018, at 23:08, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/27/2018 5:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> 
>>> On 27 Sep 2018, at 03:31, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> On 26 Sep 2018, at 02:36, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I agree that the quote does not make sense. But it is what you said.
>>>> 
>>>> It does not make sense out of hits context. It is the the “…” which does 
>>>> not make sense. 
>>>> 
>>>> The real question is “have you grasped now?”
>>>> 
>>>>>> I say that in the context of Mechanism. Then in the math part, I have 
>>>>>> (semi-) exiomatize consciousness as
>>>>>> True, unjustifiable, undefinable, immediately knowable, indubitable, and 
>>>>>> show how the modes of self-reference makes any universal machine 
>>>>>> verifying the existence of this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is an attempt at proof by definition. All it amounts to is your 
>>>>> usual "cat-dog" logic -- the argument that similarity implies identity.
>>>> 
>>>> The question is “do you accept that your daughter marry a man who get a 
>>>> digital heart, and later, a digital brain”?
>>> 
>>> My daughter can marry whomsoever she pleases.
>> 
>> Even a p-zombie?
> 
> How would you know?

I would not know, but a non computationalist would claim this, which is the 
reason of my question, indeed.

Bruno




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