> On 20 Oct 2018, at 09:23, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 1:32:25 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 19 Oct 2018, at 23:43, Brent Meeker <[email protected] <javascript:>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 10/19/2018 11:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> I work with people who studied religion all the times. You seem unaware > >> that we can doubt Aristotle theology. > > > > You seem unaware that there is not such thing. Your "Aristotle theology" > > is a straw man you invented to beat with stick labelled "primary matter". > > I'll bet that if you ask a 100 physicists, "Do you believe in primary > > matter." you'll get 99 answers of "What??” > > Because they have been brainwashed since about 529, into the idea that > “matter” is “primary matter”. > > Bruno > > > > > > I'm not sure really what today's physicists think matter is, but of what I've > read - e.g. Sean Carroll and Max Tegmark - they seem confused: "It's just > information/math" or something like that. > > Makes one want to kick something. > > "After we came out of the church, we stood talking for some time together of > Bishop Berkeley's ingenious sophistry to prove the nonexistence of matter, > and that every thing in the universe is merely ideal. I observed, that though > we are satisfied his doctrine is not true, it is impossible to refute it. I > never shall forget the alacrity with which Johnson answered, striking his > foot with mighty force against a large stone, till he rebounded from it -- I > refute it thus." > Boswell: Life > > - pt
The physicists are not aware of the mind-body problem, even when andonning primary matter, they remain physicalist. The question is not so much about matter than about physics and its possible reduction to another realm. I too refute idealism a long time ago by kicking a stone, and said “I refute it”, but then I woke up! Bruno > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
