On Sunday, October 21, 2018 at 11:30:54 AM UTC-5, Tomas Pales wrote: > > > > On Sunday, October 21, 2018 at 5:22:20 PM UTC+2, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> BTW, on "non-relations [which] are the non-mathematical objects and they >> (or at least some of them) may be the qualities of consciousness (qualia)", >> that is what I try to address in >> >> >> https://codicalist.wordpress.com/2018/10/14/experience-processing/ >> >> where there is information processing (which is all mathematical >> processing) and something else: experience processing. >> >> - pt >> > > I would say that any description is relational and therefore > mathematical/logical. When you describe an object you always define/present > it in relations to other objects - in relations to its parts or properties. > You can't describe the object itself, only give it a label. So you can't > describe qualities of consciousness themselves either. Not sure how you > would "process" them then. > > Is there really a fundamental difference between hardware and software? I > mean, software can be seen as part of hardware: software is a particular > configuration of electron flows in hardware. >
Mathematics is genre of fiction [ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fictionalism-mathematics/ ], so relations are fictional. "Processing" relations/mathematics has no real meaning. The difference between hardware and software today is somewhat blurred with synthetic biology, programmable matter, reconfigurable hardware. - pt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
