On 10/27/2018 1:21 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 2:52:51 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 10/26/2018 11:50 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
Logical consistency is a relation between sentences. It's
not about existence. The sentences might be about the
existence of something, but that's different. Or the
sentences may have variables quantified by existential
quantifiers, but that's different too. To say logical
consistency is needed for existence would be a category error.
Brent
In other words:
https://www.lrb.co.uk/v08/n07/richard-rorty/the-contingency-of-language
<https://www.lrb.co.uk/v08/n07/richard-rorty/the-contingency-of-language>
:
/As long as we think that there is some relation called ‘fitting
the world’ or ‘expressing the real nature of the human self’
which can be possessed or lacked by vocabularies-as-wholes, we
shall continue the traditional philosophical search for a
criterion which will tell us which vocabularies have this
desirable feature. But if we could ever become reconciled to the
idea that *reality is indifferent to our descriptions of it,* and
that the human self is created by the use of a vocabulary rather
than being adequately or inadequately expressed in a vocabulary,
then we should at last have assimilated what was true in the
romantic idea that truth is made rather than found. What is true
about this claim is just that*languages are made rather than
found, and that truth is a property of linguistic entities, of
sentences.*/
- pt
But what is true about the sentence, /"What is true about this
claim is just that languages are made rather than found, and that
truth is a property of linguistic entities, of sentences."/? Is
it not correspondence with some physical events, i.e. facts?
Brent
In the Rortian philosophical world of *neopragmatism*
[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neopragmatism ], the correspondence
concept of truth is wrong:
"The thought was that in order for a statement or proposition to be
true it must give facts which correspond to what is actually present
in reality. This is called the correspondence theory of truth and is
to be distinguished from a neopragmatic conception of truth."
A "neopragmatic conception of truth"has Rorty, Quine, Wittgenstein,
... spins, but it's basically that language is in a pragmatic
relationship with reality.
I'm well aware of pragmatism. I just doubt that by A= /"What is true
about this claim is just that languages are made rather than found, and
that truth is a property of linguistic entities, of sentences."/ he
meant that A is in a pragmatic relationship with reality/. / That's what
Donald Trump's statements have"A pragmatic relationship with reality."
aka "Convenient lies".
Brent
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