On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 9:00:26 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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> On 12/3/2018 8:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 3 Dec 2018, at 10:35, Philip Thrift <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
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> On Sunday, December 2, 2018 at 8:17:54 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: 
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>> On 12/2/2018 5:14 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
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>> On Sunday, December 2, 2018 at 4:25:04 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: 
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>>> On 12/2/2018 11:42 AM, Philip Thrift wrote:
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>>> On Sunday, December 2, 2018 at 8:13:48 AM UTC-6, [email protected] 
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>>>> *Obviously, from a one-world perspective, only one history survives for 
>>>> a single trial. But to even grossly approach anything describable as 
>>>> "Darwinian", you have to identify characteristics of histories which 
>>>> contribute positively or negatively wrt surviving but I don't see an 
>>>> inkling of that. IMO, Quantum Darwinism is at best a vacuous restatement 
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>>>> the measurement problemt; that we don't know why we get what we get. AG*
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>>> In the *sum over histories* interpretation - of the double-slit 
>>> experiment, for example - each history carries a unit complex number - like 
>>> a gene - and this gene reenforces (positively) or interferes (negatively) 
>>> with other history's genes in the sum.
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>>> But I thought you said the ontology was that only one history "popped 
>>> out of the Lottery machine"?  Here you seem to contemplate an ensemble of 
>>> histories, all those ending at the given spot, as being real.
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>> All are real until all but one dies.
>> RIP: All those losing histories.
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>> The trouble with that is the Born probability doesn't apply to histories, 
>> it applies to results.  So your theory says nothing about the probability 
>> of the fundamental ontologies.
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>> Brent
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> The probability distribution on the space of histories is provided by the 
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> Except that isn't true. A probability (or probability density) is provided 
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That's why you add to that "pick any history at random from the bundle":

1. Histories originate at an emitter e and end at screen locations s on a 
screen S.
2. At each s there is a history bundle histories(s). A weight w(s) is 
computed from the bundle by summing the unit complex numbers of the 
histories and taking the modulus. 
3. The weight w(s) is sent back in time over a single history h*(s) 
selected at random (uniformly) from histories(s).
4. At e, the weights w(s) on backchannel of h*(s) are received (in the 
"present" time)
5. A single history h*(s*) is then selected from the distribution in 4.

See the *Wheeler-Feynman computer*:
[ 
https://codicalist.wordpress.com/2018/09/25/retrosignaling-in-the-quantum-substrate/
 
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- pt

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