On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 10:54:09 AM UTC, [email protected] wrote: > > > > On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 1:18:52 AM UTC, [email protected] wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 10:01:18 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 8:56 AM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 3:28 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> But a system that is consistent can also prove a statement that is >>>>> false: >>>>> >>>>> axiom 1: Trump is a genius. >>>>> axiom 2: Trump is stable. >>>>> >>>>> theorem: Trump is a stable genius. >>>>> >>>> >>>> So how is this different from flawed physical theories? >>>> >>> >>> Physical theories do not claim to prove theorems - they are not systems >>> of axioms and theorems. Attempts to recast physics in this form have always >>> failed. >>> >>> Bruce >>> >> >> QM can be interpreted as a system of axioms or postulates, and the HUP >> can be interpreted as a theorem, or consequence of those axioms or >> postulates. AG >> > > *My counter-example to your claim are the several postulates or axioms of > Wave Mechanics. Another example are the three postulates or axioms of > Feynman's Sums over Histories as stated here: > http://muchomas.lassp.cornell.edu/8.04/Lecs/lec_FeynmanDiagrams/node3.html > <http://muchomas.lassp.cornell.edu/8.04/Lecs/lec_FeynmanDiagrams/node3.html> > . The general of these systems can be considered as theorems. I am sure > other examples exist. AG* >
*Correction of omission: ... The general results of these systems ... AG* *FWIW, SR is also based on, I think, two postulates; the invariance of the SoL and the Principle of Relativity -- that the laws of physics are invariant in inertial frames. AG* > > >>> >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

