On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 11:05:31 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 10:54:09 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 1:18:52 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 10:01:18 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 8:56 AM Jason Resch <jason...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 3:28 PM Brent Meeker <meek...@verizon.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But a system that is consistent can also prove a statement that is >>>>>> false: >>>>>> >>>>>> axiom 1: Trump is a genius. >>>>>> axiom 2: Trump is stable. >>>>>> >>>>>> theorem: Trump is a stable genius. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So how is this different from flawed physical theories? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Physical theories do not claim to prove theorems - they are not systems >>>> of axioms and theorems. Attempts to recast physics in this form have >>>> always >>>> failed. >>>> >>>> Bruce >>>> >>> >>> QM can be interpreted as a system of axioms or postulates, and the HUP >>> can be interpreted as a theorem, or consequence of those axioms or >>> postulates. AG >>> >> >> *My counter-example to your claim are the several postulates or axioms of >> Wave Mechanics. Another example are the three postulates or axioms of >> Feynman's Sums over Histories as stated here: >> http://muchomas.lassp.cornell.edu/8.04/Lecs/lec_FeynmanDiagrams/node3.html >> <http://muchomas.lassp.cornell.edu/8.04/Lecs/lec_FeynmanDiagrams/node3.html> >> . The general of these systems can be considered as theorems. I am sure >> other examples exist. AG* >> > > > *Correction of omission: ... The general results of these systems ... AG* > > > *FWIW, SR is also based on, I think, two postulates; the invariance of the > SoL and the Principle of Relativity -- that the laws of physics are > invariant in inertial frames. AG* >
*In the case of SR, one theorem would be that events transform according to the Lorentz Transformation. AG* > > >> >>>> >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
