On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 11:05:31 AM UTC, [email protected] wrote: > > > > On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 10:54:09 AM UTC, [email protected] > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 1:18:52 AM UTC, [email protected] >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, December 16, 2018 at 10:01:18 PM UTC, Bruce wrote: >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 8:56 AM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 3:28 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But a system that is consistent can also prove a statement that is >>>>>> false: >>>>>> >>>>>> axiom 1: Trump is a genius. >>>>>> axiom 2: Trump is stable. >>>>>> >>>>>> theorem: Trump is a stable genius. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So how is this different from flawed physical theories? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Physical theories do not claim to prove theorems - they are not systems >>>> of axioms and theorems. Attempts to recast physics in this form have >>>> always >>>> failed. >>>> >>>> Bruce >>>> >>> >>> QM can be interpreted as a system of axioms or postulates, and the HUP >>> can be interpreted as a theorem, or consequence of those axioms or >>> postulates. AG >>> >> >> *My counter-example to your claim are the several postulates or axioms of >> Wave Mechanics. Another example are the three postulates or axioms of >> Feynman's Sums over Histories as stated here: >> http://muchomas.lassp.cornell.edu/8.04/Lecs/lec_FeynmanDiagrams/node3.html >> <http://muchomas.lassp.cornell.edu/8.04/Lecs/lec_FeynmanDiagrams/node3.html> >> . The general of these systems can be considered as theorems. I am sure >> other examples exist. AG* >> > > > *Correction of omission: ... The general results of these systems ... AG* > > > *FWIW, SR is also based on, I think, two postulates; the invariance of the > SoL and the Principle of Relativity -- that the laws of physics are > invariant in inertial frames. AG* >
*In the case of SR, one theorem would be that events transform according to the Lorentz Transformation. AG* > > >> >>>> >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
