On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 1:12:32 PM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> What I am curious to know is how how many of these statements you agree 
> with:
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> "2+2 = 4" was true:
> 1. Before I was born
> 2. Before humans formalized axioms and found a proof of it
> 3. Before there were humans
> 4. Before there was any conscious life in this universe
> 5. As soon as there were 4 physical things to count
> 6. Before the big bang / before there were 4 physical things
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Let + be "concatenation" (perhaps a more primitive notion than addition).

So  

*         |**|*+*|**| *= * |**|**|**|*


Now I could not write or show that without matter. The *| *is made and 
stored with electrons in computer memory and then transferred via internet 
to a computer screen. The concatenation operation producing the right side 
is made via a computer or brain putting "sticks" together.

Before there were "sticks" there was no concatenation of "sticks". (See 
question 6.)

What your brain does with the pixels you see above is up to your brain.

- pt

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